[smcrack]

um35h said:

...i always thought the other languages wont load since the binary selects the language pack from the preferences set and hence makes no difference if there or removed. but if u said is true we can have so much free resources in our hands !!!!

let me try and time individual app memory and cpu usage to see if it works.

thaaaaaaaaaanks.

oh, that may be the case... to be honest im not sure. maybe the increased loading times arent really there and im just imagining them bc i wanted my method to work... lol

either way, it at least frees up some space... let me know tho if you see any increase so i know for sure.

thanks and thanks for the daemon tips also!

[legendz411]

It makes sense that the other languages are still parsed when the app loads. The phone still has to read the binary to select the lang package. If there are no other packages to select from, it doesnt have to read thro them all to find the one it needs. This may be why you would see a bigger increase with the apps that have many packages compared to the ones with few packages

[um35h]

Hiii done with smcrack's idea of clearing all other language packages no change in the free memory level or cpu load although i ended up freeing 10 mb of diskspace ;) in root partition. weirdly enf springboard's using a bit more memory :( donno think its related thou.

PS. anyone trying this be very careful with your backups make it in var/mobile/ folder and not in root partition else you will get low disk space error. :)

Result: doesnt work for me if it works for you pls post..

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legendz411 said:

It makes sense that the other languages are still parsed when the app loads. The phone still has to read the binary to select the lang package. If there are no other packages to select from, it doesnt have to read thro them all to find the one it needs. This may be why you would see a bigger increase with the apps that have many packages compared to the ones with few packages

i was hoping it was so too apperently its not so doesnt work.. :?

[beezee]

about my crap:
iPhone 3G 8GB, Jailbroken, SBsettings on board (added rotation toggle, keep awake), about 5GB of music files, approx. 1GB apps, 5icon dock, reflective dock, WinterBoard's wallpaper under icons, lock clock and system fonts added manually

imo - good start (disabling services), but the sys speed increase ? hmm.... I disabled those Daemons and to be honest I see no significant difference during iPhone useage; maybe ill try to play more with ma device then tell you bit more too, but now i dont' think it does an acceleration to da iPhone 3G opearating system.

I agree - device boot time is definately shorter


sorry for disappointing you, with my opinion, but i'll keep try to proove that this mod really works (i'd like too)

[um35h]

beezee said:

about my crap:
iPhone 3G 8GB, Jailbroken, SBsettings on board (added rotation toggle, keep awake), about 5GB of music files, approx. 1GB apps, 5icon dock, reflective dock, WinterBoard's wallpaper under icons, lock clock and system fonts added manually

imo - good start (disabling services), but the sys speed increase ? hmm.... I disabled those Daemons and to be honest I see no significant difference during iPhone useage; maybe ill try to play more with ma device then tell you bit more too, but now i dont' think it does an acceleration to da iPhone 3G opearating system.

I agree - device boot time is definately shorter


sorry for disappointing you, with my opinion, but i'll keep try to proove that this mod really works (i'd like too)

Hiiii thaaanks for the stats, its not a magic wand :meditate: lol.. nyways can u tell me how much memory is available before and after ??? doing these changes ? chk to see any background services are still running caz apps like ipod safari and mail take upto 30mb each so if they are runnin in background u cant really tell or notice any perfomance difference. and can u tell me which firmware are you on ?

This post has been edited by um35h: 07 July 2009 - 10:49 AM

[beezee]

fyi i am on iphone OS 3.0

...on the other side iPhones and iPods Touch are with built in flash memory, so i would say such things like read/write time on flash drive (similar to ordinary mechanical HDD on your computer) haven't any meaning here.
Ok, here might be a problem with capacity, ram_disk, temporary filez etc. but read/write operations theoreticaly are much faster i.e. http://www.tomshardw...51207_20_0.html (there's a lot more of it)

Regarding to your question about freeing memory after disabling services (daemons) - well, hard to say how is it, even harder it's to measure it :icon_hang:

actally i haven't observed much more free ram on my device

This post has been edited by beezee: 07 July 2009 - 01:06 PM
Reason for edit: wrong link, sorry

[rocknsince1984]

I just noticed that one of the plists disables playing music through the dock connector. I haven't taken the time to figure out which one though. :?

EDIT: As bob92 mentioned... it was com.apple.accessoryd

This post has been edited by rocknsince1984: 07 July 2009 - 01:39 PM
Reason for edit: Update

[bob92]

probably this : com.apple.accessoryd, judging by the name.

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this one :com.apple.accessoryd

[um35h]

beezee said:

fyi i am on iphone OS 3.0

...on the other side iPhones and iPods Touch are with built in flash memory, so i would say such things like read/write time on flash drive (similar to ordinary mechanical HDD on your computer) haven't any meaning here.
Ok, here might be a problem with capacity, ram_disk, temporary filez etc. but read/write operations theoreticaly are much faster i.e. http://www.tomshardw...51207_20_0.html (there's a lot more of it)

Regarding to your question about freeing memory after disabling services (daemons) - well, hard to say how is it, even harder is to measure it :icon_hang:

actally i haven't observed much more free ram on my device

Hey chill ;) i was only asking abt the FW caz u so systematically mentioned everything else n forgot abt it. and since i did these changes to 3.0 so wantd to knw if we are on same page here.

Now, here u are answering ur own question. no ones talking abt hdds here yuck :icon_butt:. whr did u get that idea. unless u are confused abt the diskspace and ram they are both different :giggle: 8gb iphn doesnt mean 8gb of ram :wtf:!

Here we r trying to reduce the iphone to bare minimum processes ones that are only required / ones we want to run. read earlier posts the purpost of this thread is to have an app similar to swapmode. if all our ideas work.

The only two imp perfomance points are free available ram and processor load so by reducing the process runnin (again talking abt the processor / cpu load not hdd r/w's :razz: nor that :omg:link u keep changing)

launchdeamons are like system services each with a specific task like logging crashdump etc etc so removing these would result in one less process run. most of them are idle but they are around 57 of them runnin so carefully removing some shd have some impact or reduce some cpuload or free some ram.. u said bootup is faster isnt tht enf for u.

ur first post was a lot easy to understand second one was difficult to make sense or was weiring off topic and into the realm of confused so put this up this to help u understand or solve any confusion. hope this helps u understand :stroke:

cheerios then mate.

[beezee]

ur right mate,
i'll keep researchin then

amen


:?

[um35h]

rocknsince1984 said:

I just noticed that one of the plists disables playing music through the dock connector. I haven't taken the time to figure out which one though. :?

EDIT: As bob92 mentioned... it was com.apple.accessoryd

thanks i tht so too i dont use dock so disabld thnx. credit goes to u guys chk the first post.

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bob92 said:

probably this : com.apple.accessoryd, judging by the name.

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this one :com.apple.accessoryd

yaa i tht so too chkup the first post i edited to add ur findings ;)

[interestingkid]

my music player app is crashing now...
first, it only crashed when i went into podcast section where i had 1 podcast
then i added a video podcast and then it just crashes whenever i open it
i think com.apple.graphicservices.sample.plist might have something to do with the album arts...
anyone have the backup? or anyone have this problem too?

[Mike_Rotch]

http://rapidshare.co...mple.plist.html

here u go.

remember to always back up.

[kralizec]

ok...

I tried on my 2G iPhone running 3.0

I just Deleted the ones you were sure what they do:

- Accessoryd
- DumpPanic
- DumpBasebandCrash
- ReportCrash.*
- syslogd
- racoon

and I left:
- AddressBook
- graphicsservices.sample (that someone thinked related to artworks in iPod or something like that)
- stackshot.server
- tcpdump.server

I also deleted fairplayd because i haven't any DRMed music... i tried to play a couple of songs in the ipod app and it seems to work fine... I'll let you know if I'll find any problems with it... EDIT: I'm an IDIOT, do not delete it... it's used for all of your legit AppStore apps... :-/

my configuration is:

iphone 2g 3.0

packages:

- SBSettings
- SSH (but I usually turn it off with SBSettings toggle)

mobilesubstrate
- cydelete
- cyntact
- LockCalendar
- mailtoattachment
- preferenceloader
- spotbright
- biteSMSsb
- wigglefree


using memTool or the new option "free Memory" in SBSettings I Gained 6 to 8 MB, going up to 46 MB free...

Probably the most "heavy" ones are the ones I left... please does anyone have news about what they do?

This post has been edited by kralizec: 09 July 2009 - 05:15 AM

[um35h]

interestingkid said:

my music player app is crashing now...
first, it only crashed when i went into podcast section where i had 1 podcast
then i added a video podcast and then it just crashes whenever i open it
i think com.apple.graphicservices.sample.plist might have something to do with the album arts...
anyone have the backup? or anyone have this problem too?

hii pls keep backups before doing anythin else u might screwup ur iphone easiest way to do this is just right-click on the folder in winscp select duplicate in path is ~\*.* to ~\*.old its quite easy.

mike_rotch put up a backup of the file download it and set its permission to 644 hope this fixes things. dont forget to thank mike_rotch.

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kralizec said:

ok...

I tried on my 2G iPhone running 3.0

I just Deleted the ones you were sure what they do:

- Accessoryd
- DumpPanic
- DumpBasebandCrash
- ReportCrash.*
- syslogd
- racoon

and I left:
- AddressBook
- graphicsservices.sample (that someone thinked related to artworks in iPod or something like that)
- stackshot.server
- tcpdump.server

I also deleted fairplayd because i haven't any DRMed music... i tried to play a couple of songs in the ipod app and it seems to work fine... I'll let you know if I'll find any problems with it... EDIT: I'm an IDIOT, do not delete it... it's used for all of your legit AppStore apps... :-/

my configuration is:

iphone 2g 3.0

packages:

- SBSettings
- SSH (but I usually turn it off with SBSettings toggle)

mobilesubstrate
- cydelete
- cyntact
- LockCalendar
- mailtoattachment
- preferenceloader
- spotbright
- biteSMSsb
- wigglefree


using memTool or the new option "free Memory" in SBSettings I Gained 6 to 8 MB, going up to 46 MB free...

Probably the most "heavy" ones are the ones I left... please does anyone have news about what they do?

think u can delete the addressbook deamon too. i am fine w/o it i use sync services too still everythings working fine.

i use cyntact and notices the contacts tab loads faster now can anyone confirm this ?

This post has been edited by um35h: 09 July 2009 - 09:05 AM

[kralizec]

looking in AddressBook... I think it's related in importing contacts from Sim and stuff like that because in his MachServices there's a com.apple.addressbook.migrationdaemon

[um35h]

kralizec said:

looking in AddressBook... I think it's related in importing contacts from Sim and stuff like that because in his MachServices there's a com.apple.addressbook.migrationdaemon

and any update on contacts tab with cyntact being faster to load think its related..

[kralizec]

ok... thank you... I don't use cyntact but I deleted it anyway :-D

do you know anything about iTunesstored?

oh... I also found and wiped out PowerLog that I think it's just another System Log

[um35h]

kralizec said:

ok... thank you... I don't use cyntact but I deleted it anyway :-D

do you know anything about iTunesstored?

oh... I also found and wiped out PowerLog that I think it's just another System Log

yaa abt the powerlog i did the same too, itunesstored gets activated everytime we download anythin from appstore and goes away once i connect with itunes on my pc think it helps in copying of the downloaded apps from the iphone to pc.

[kralizec]

ok, so I think it's a good thing to keep... :-)